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Coordinating Group ~ Schedule of Meetings 2020-21

The schedule of dates for future Coordinating Group meetings in 2020-21 has been revised and updated. All meetings will be held online, and all PCT Scotland members are welcome to attend.

If you plan to attend, please contact the Secretary at secretary@pctscotland.co.uk  at secretary@pctscotland.co.uk to receive the link required to join the meeting. 

The revised schedule for 2020-21 is as follows:

Thursday 10th September 2020, 7pm - 8.30pm
Thursday 21th November 2020
 , 7pm - 8.30pm 
Thursday 14th January 2021, 7pm - 8.30pm 
Thursday 11th March 2021, 7pm - 8.30pm 
Thursday 13th May 2021 , 7pm - 8.30pm 
Thursday 8th July 2021, 7pm - 8.30pm 

Please watch future newsletters, the website and our social media for additional info closer to the meeting dates.

GWG – Interview – August 2020 1

Talking to... Leonore Langner. She is a Person-Centered Psychotherapist, Supervisor and Coach. As Chairperson of the Board of PCE Europe, she is also committed to spreading the Person-Centered Approach in Europe. Here she reports about the latest developments and decisions within PCE Europe.

At the extraordinary general assembly of PCE Europe in April this year the member organizations decided to register PCE Europe as a registered association (NGO) in Austria. What do you hope for the future of the association from this step?
PCE Europe previously had the status of an "unincorporated association" in Great Britain, a form of organization which only exists there and is not a legal entity. This was sufficient when the network was founded, but times have changed. The change to a registered, non-profit association now makes us a legal entity with all the corresponding possibilities and, of course, obligations. This step had been planned for a few years, but the brexit then added to the urgency. After we had done extensive research to find out where the most favourable conditions for our network are, Austria emerged. Since 28 May 2020 we are now officially listed in the register of associations there. Also our account is soon to be changed from a sterling to an euro account, since most of our members have the euro after all and we have lost a lot of money through currency conversion over time.

What other topics are on the agenda of PCE Europe for the next 2-3 years?
In the course of the registration in Austria our previous statutes had to be changed according to the Austrian law of associations. On closer examination of this set of rules and regulations it became clear that both the statutes and the bylaws would need a fundamental revision of the details, and a working group was formed which is already busy at work. In addition, we are discussing the topic of "individual membership" in the board and with our members. At the moment we do not have any individuals as members, but only organisations, but we are considering changing and developing ourselves. We would like to support and promote the topics "development of European training standards", "European and worldwide research", "organisation of person-centred and experiential symposia" in our function as network headquarters. The cooperation with the world association WAPCEPC, of which we are a chapter, is to be expanded. We are also in the process of further expanding our new website www.pce-europe.org, both in general and in the special member area.

How do you experience the effects of the Corona pandemic on cooperation within the association and its 30 member organisations? To what extent, for example, are virtual meetings accepted and possibly expanded?
Our Extraordinary General Assembly at the end of April should have been held in Athens. Athens had to be cancelled, of course, and the General Assembly took place online. Of course, personal meetings are particularly important in our approach, but this virtual meeting was very well received! In order to take into account the financial damage caused by Corona, the Executive Committee had decided that this time delegates from members who had not yet paid the membership fee in 2020 would also be allowed to attend the AGM if they made a "promise" to pay during the year. In the end, delegates from almost all members were present at the GA, which had not been the case for a long time. Not all of our members can afford the expensive travel, this time everyone had the same chances! Due to our international composition, we are already used to online meetings in the board, but when it became clear how big the influx of members is, the idea of "Roundtables" was born: Here the board and the delegates of the members can meet virtually at irregular intervals to discuss certain topics. In the meantime the second Roundtable - on 11 September - is already planned!

Some members have expressed confusion about the process of renewing your membership online, so to help with this process here is a step-by-step guide to renewals. 

PCE Europe is currently considering the pros and cons of introducing individual membership (see below for notes from their Roundtable meeting held on 27 June 2020).

They want to hear from us: do we see any benefits in being an individual member of PCE Europe? What are the pitfalls and how should membership look in the future? For more information about PCE Europe, please visit their recently refreshed website: www.pce-europe.org 

If you have any ideas, questions or comments, please send them to the PCT Scotland coordinating group via  secretary@pctscotland.co.uk. We will collate your feedback ahead of the next PCE Europe Roundtable event, which will take place on 11 September 2020.


Attendees (PCE board): Claudia Akrimi, Gaby Pierre Chami, Leonore Langner, Dimitris Portokalis, Allan Turner
Attendees (members): Suzy Henry - UK, Ewa Kaczorkiewicz - Poland, Sylvia Rasch - Germany, Janet Tolan - UK
Date June 27, 2020

- Claudia gives technical details
- Introduction of all members
- Sylvia asks to see the meeting notes as soon as possible, so she can maybe include something in the German newsletter (deadline for newsletter: July 1).

- All topics from members collected on electronic pinboard
- Creation of small working group to finish the statutes + bylaws (Janet for comments and English language checks, Jean-Marc, Leonore, Allan, Gaby). Leonore proposes a Friday evening or Saturday. Sylvia notes that the statutes were voted and agreed on, so why change? Leonore replies that the board topic (individual membership) may change the statutes again.

- Leonore: Board would like to talk about acceptance of individual members and explains why: historical reasons for organisational membership only. This is no longer the case: individual membership allows member to get more involved personally. The delegates stand for their organisation, but not for their personal wishes and values. In future, we need to get more “person-centered”: people need to be able to give their own views and be heard. We sometimes get requests for individual membership and we have so far had to decline.
- We always hear the delegates’ opinion, but what about the opinions and values of the individuals? Are they the same, what do they want?
- Individual memberships could strengthen our power, lobbying
- Looking at the current situation and political landscape, we are squandering resources, people who could add their ideas, time and energy to our cause
- Last Board was not functioning: the subsequent task force was not made up of delegates, as no delegates wanted the job – therefore individuals are necessary
- 2000 members GWG, Czech Republic: 8, they have no network like GWG
- National organisation should be the centre-point for individual members, so we do not have to check all the time. This would also immediately make it more “public”
- Comment from group: “this is the first time I hear about it”. Leonore: it was a big topic during the GA in Warsaw and we talked about it in the last Extraordinary General Assembly: this shows that the information is not trickling down and we do not reach the local psychotherapists
Cons / Concerns
- What if an individual member is not member of my local organisation? We will lose members. Leonore: if we only accept members who are already affiliated to a local organisation, then this risk is avoided.
- In the UK it is hard to make a living, salaries are going down, there would be a competition. The fee would make a difference (low fee). The opportunity to network would be a benefit.
- Sylvia addresses the difficulty in elections, with the value of votes between organisational and personal members. EAP: they do have individual membership. Individual members have 1 vote in GWG, that would not be fair (GWG has three votes). Leonore: We could do it like WAPCEPC: individuals and organisations would form separate constituencies and both constituencies would approve a course of action. elections would be done separately and decision would only be taken if consensus between personal members and delegates
- What about governance in case of an individual membership? Who makes sure that the individual is up to the PCA-standard?
- People still need to be aware of their national organisation
- We need to think about all the ramifications this could have: individual member and the if national organisation dissolves or suspends their membership. Or in case of personal quarrels.
- What if the person leaves the national organisation in-between and stays individual member instead? Who checks?
- Different national set-ups in the country organisations and training institutes

- The PCE Europe Board will work on a draft to be sent out as pre-read before September 2020
- Pinboard with parking lot for questions is checked out. It is decided to have 1 hour for individual membership and the other hour for exchange of experience and best practice during the next Roundtable
- Claudia to send out names of digital tools to create videos, as per request from the group
- Next Roundtable date: September 11, 2020 via Zoom, 7 – 9 pm (Berlin time)

We hope you are all well and that you had or are having restful summer holidays.
Since the Extraordinary General Assembly in April this year, the PCE Europe board has been busy with several topics.
Statutes & Bylaws
A working group has started to finetune our Statutes and Bylaws - the proposed amendments can be discussed among the members in the coming roundtables. Our joint brainstorming is more and more focused on the topic of finding identity for PCE Europe. In which direction does our network want to develop? An important point of discussion is the individual membership - whoever feels like joining these think tanks, just get in touch! We will regularly report on our results.
PCE Europe History
We are also working on a history of PCE Europe to be included in our website by the end of the year.
Organizational Change
Due to other priorities, Tito Laneiro has decided to resign from the board with immediate effect. We would like to take this opportunity to thank Tito for his collaboration and wish him all the best in his future endeavours.
In such a case, the statutes allow the co-option of a new board member. We are very pleased that Ewa Kaczorkiewicz from INTRA, Poland, has announced her willingness to work for PCE Europe and therefore the Board of PCE Europe has co-opted her. She is very interested in working on an international level and is also on the newly elected board of the WAPCEPC. Ewa will take over the member tasks and the maintenance of our website. We are all very much looking forward to working with her. Please join us in wishing Tito all the best and welcoming Ewa very warmly to the team!
Interview in the GwG-Newsletter
An interview with our chair person Leonore Langner was published in the GwG newsletter in July. GwG has kindly allowed us to send out the interview to all our members (PCTS members - see separate notice)
Roundtable - September
And last but not least, it is soon time for our next Roundtable! Do you have any topics you would like to discuss? Are you interested in best practice sharing with your colleagues from all over Europe? We are planning to have some time on individual membership.
Here some of the other topics from the last meeting we would like to take up:
  • Cognitive behavioural therapy: is taking over in the UK and pushing out others. Experience in other countries?
  • Public perception of PCE (incl. reimbursement, lobbying)
We are looking forward to seeing you all “live” in September and remain
With kind regards,
PCE Europe Board

PCE Europe's new website is now live and looking good!  Check it out here: https://www.pce-europe.org/

PCT Scotland is opening up the opportunity to connect with other members across Scotland as a member of an self-directed online peer support group. 

The idea is simple:
~ complete online form and let me know what topics you'd be interested in discussing in a group or whether you'd be interested in being part of a general group.  
~ I'll keep an eye on the interest coming in and once there are at least three people with similar interests I will contact you to check that you are still happy for me to put you in touch with other potential members.
~ Once you are in contact with each other it's over to the group to decide everything else ~ when you want to meet, how often, group boundaries, topics for discussion etc.

I will be genuinely interested to hear how the groups are doing from time to time, and whether this is helpful for the members, but I wouldn't intend to influence the running of them in any way.

Did you know that PCT Scotland has social media communities online to keep us connected even when geographical distance is an issue?  You can 'Like', 'Follow'and get involved here:

Facebook - public page - https://www.facebook.com/PCTScotland/
Facebook -members closed group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1759709644243418/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/PCTScotland

The peer support group is expanding (we are now four members) and is open to new people to join.

We are currently meeting once a month, for an hour and a half.

Our next online meeting will be held on Thursday 6th August at 2.30pm.

If you are interested in joining us or are curious about it and want to know more, you can contact Francesca at francesca.loverso@gmail.com

Hello All Just to let you know that I have responded to Oonaghs's reflection on being a long term member of PCT Scotland. I included a wee poem that I like and hope you like it too. I intend to write up my own reflection in the next few weeks. Please check out the forum and under discussion. If you would like to comment or add your own reflection it would be great if you could also add it to the discussion forum as well as sending it to Susan who will send it out as a mass email. Annette

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